Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
- Dr Strangelove
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
David Eby: "Even Russian forest products have better access to the U.S. market right now than Canadian forest products. And in that environment, the idea that we would be stocking U.S. liquor is absurd."
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- al_keda
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
Sell the shuttered Stellantis plant to BYD. Fuck the US. Australia doesn't make cars anymore.
We have free trade agreements with Japan and Korea. WE can import their cars with no tariffs. Fuck the US. Let our American owned car industry die. Lets build better in Canada.
We have free trade agreements with Japan and Korea. WE can import their cars with no tariffs. Fuck the US. Let our American owned car industry die. Lets build better in Canada.
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
Historical Context of U.S. Trade Wars:
The video argues that history shows the U.S. rarely wins in trade wars with Canada. Notable examples include:
1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act: Imposed high duties on over 20,000 products. Canada retaliated with reciprocal tariffs, and U.S. exports eventually collapsed significantly (1:02-1:42).
1971 Nixon Tariffs: A 10% import surcharge was met with a swift Canadian response, leading the U.S. to back down within four months (1:42-1:57).
Softwood Lumber Disputes: Since the early 1980s, the U.S. has targeted Canadian lumber five times. International bodies like NAFTA and the WTO have consistently sided with Canada, forcing the U.S. to return billions in collected duties (1:57-2:20).
Current Situation & Leverage:
Despite current trade tensions, Maffin notes that Canada is better prepared than in the past. He highlights several strengths:
Economic Resilience: Canada is seeing high levels of foreign investment and job growth compared to other G7 nations (3:40-3:50).
Energy Leverage: Canada provides a significant portion of U.S. crude oil and natural gas imports, giving the country substantial leverage (3:50-4:05).
The video concludes that while the current U.S. administration continues to disrupt trade in good faith, Canada will remain resilient, focusing on supporting domestic neighbors and diversifying partnerships until the U.S. eventually retreats from its protectionist stance (4:20-5:06).
The video argues that history shows the U.S. rarely wins in trade wars with Canada. Notable examples include:
1930 Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act: Imposed high duties on over 20,000 products. Canada retaliated with reciprocal tariffs, and U.S. exports eventually collapsed significantly (1:02-1:42).
1971 Nixon Tariffs: A 10% import surcharge was met with a swift Canadian response, leading the U.S. to back down within four months (1:42-1:57).
Softwood Lumber Disputes: Since the early 1980s, the U.S. has targeted Canadian lumber five times. International bodies like NAFTA and the WTO have consistently sided with Canada, forcing the U.S. to return billions in collected duties (1:57-2:20).
Current Situation & Leverage:
Despite current trade tensions, Maffin notes that Canada is better prepared than in the past. He highlights several strengths:
Economic Resilience: Canada is seeing high levels of foreign investment and job growth compared to other G7 nations (3:40-3:50).
Energy Leverage: Canada provides a significant portion of U.S. crude oil and natural gas imports, giving the country substantial leverage (3:50-4:05).
The video concludes that while the current U.S. administration continues to disrupt trade in good faith, Canada will remain resilient, focusing on supporting domestic neighbors and diversifying partnerships until the U.S. eventually retreats from its protectionist stance (4:20-5:06).
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
Transportation Secretary Duffy for some reason weighed in on Trump's Canada tariffs, lying that Mark Carney "doesn't have a military" and threatening that if his country "thinks they're gonna go to war with Donald Trump and actually win that war with the US, I think it's foolish on their part"
Duffy also bragged about the fact that beer will be sold at today's Indycar race in downtown DC as though it's one of Trump's signature accomplishments
The whole thing was weird. Here's a supercut:
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It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
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It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
Breakdown in Negotiations: The Prime Minister stated that the U.S. introduced last-minute demands that were "uneconomic" and "unfair," undermining the reliability of any potential deal (4:56 - 5:34).
Specific Grievances: The Prime Minister highlighted attempts to exclude Canadian-made medium and heavy trucks from the agreement and efforts to restrict Canada's ability to form trade deals with other nations (7:30 - 9:05).
Retaliatory Measures: Canada plans to match new U.S. tariffs "dollar for dollar" to protect domestic industries (5:57 - 6:18).
Economic Strategy: The creator of the video argues that Canada must now pivot toward economic diversification, suggesting the need to expand energy and resource exports to markets beyond the United States (11:15 - 12:12).
Moving Forward:
The video concludes by urging Canadians to adopt a "Choose Canada" approach, including boycotting certain U.S.-made consumer goods, such as vehicles, to show solidarity during the escalating trade conflict (12:20 - 13:07).
Specific Grievances: The Prime Minister highlighted attempts to exclude Canadian-made medium and heavy trucks from the agreement and efforts to restrict Canada's ability to form trade deals with other nations (7:30 - 9:05).
Retaliatory Measures: Canada plans to match new U.S. tariffs "dollar for dollar" to protect domestic industries (5:57 - 6:18).
Economic Strategy: The creator of the video argues that Canada must now pivot toward economic diversification, suggesting the need to expand energy and resource exports to markets beyond the United States (11:15 - 12:12).
Moving Forward:
The video concludes by urging Canadians to adopt a "Choose Canada" approach, including boycotting certain U.S.-made consumer goods, such as vehicles, to show solidarity during the escalating trade conflict (12:20 - 13:07).
It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Cynicism is acceptance
Cynicism is acceptance
- testerone
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Re: Trump wants Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal
Art Of The Deal author fails to secure deal with friendliest nation on planet
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