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Canada Post union launches strike as Ottawa moves to end most door-to-door mail

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Dr Strangelove wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 5:49 pm Why outsource?
Insourcing is failing. Doing the same thing over and over again . . .
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It's only failing because both: they don't know how and they haven't been mandated to.
And it's not just the Post Office that's slow learners the couriers are just as bad.
Here in Central BC the small towns heve never had mail delivery to the door, only to boxes at a central Post Office. Purolator and others drop parcels to the central PO, the PO puts a notice card in your box to go to the deak and claim them. If the Box number is not on the parcel, the PO refuses to accept them.
Except, the couriers refuse to deliver to a Post Box... your order will not go through on most online sites if you include it. So I tell others to put the Box number or just B#2xxx on Line 2 of the online form.
EX- I just ordered a new Raspberry Pi 500+ online and the Posties went on strike the next morning.
Today I got an email that because of the strike the courier UPS will not deliver to a post box. I had to reply to simply strike the Box number off the shipping form, line 1 is the physical address. Like take a black marker and blot it out. How fucking hard is that?

As hard as getting a business or agency to use MY NAME as like many people, I've used my 2nd name my whole life. I get phone calls weekly for my first (father's) name and I've given up and just tell every caller sorry he's been dead almost twenty years.
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Management is conditioned by the mandate and by the signaling from Parliament as to what they will and will not do. The problem is the mandate itself is so badly misaligned over decades as to be unworkable. We have momentum of decades investing into diminishing returns. The only option here is to course correct but we have already smashed into the iceberg. The post is designed to carry letters but they are GONE.

The mandate itself is beyond repair and tweaking will not correct basic facts. Abandon ship. Bailing is pointless man the lifeboats.

Rebuild from scratch with realistic goals. Retrain the workforce and offer early retirements.
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testerone wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:39 pm It's only failing because both: they don't know how and they haven't been mandated to.
And it's not just the Post Office that's slow learners the couriers are just as bad.
Here in Central BC the small towns heve never had mail delivery to the door, only to boxes at a central Post Office. Purolator and others drop parcels to the central PO, the PO puts a notice card in your box to go to the deak and claim them. If the Box number is not on the parcel, the PO refuses to accept them.
Except, the couriers refuse to deliver to a Post Box... your order will not go through on most online sites if you include it. So I tell others to put the Box number or just B#2xxx on Line 2 of the online form.
EX- I just ordered a new Raspberry Pi 500+ online and the Posties went on strike the next morning.
Today I got an email that because of the strike the courier UPS will not deliver to a post box. I had to reply to simply strike the Box number off the shipping form, line 1 is the physical address. Like take a black marker and blot it out. How fucking hard is that?
Oh, some couriers get it. I paid extra for fast delivery on one package, and did not pay for a signature. They kept the package in the back of a truck for a week and drove it around the city because they insisted on a signature and rang the doorbell and ran away before I could come upstairs. So i paid extra for storage and a grand tour. Another courier I can specify to leave it on the back porch, and they leave it on the back porch. They understand handling is labour and labour is expensive, and coming back for 3 days is excessive labour. CP might see this policy as a money maker, but they won't. Take money to deliver a package, and deliver it. If one in a thousand are stolen, it's cheaper to have insurance claims than
to waste that labour.
testerone wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:39 pm As hard as getting a business or agency to use MY NAME as like many people, I've used my 2nd name my whole life. I get phone calls weekly for my first (father's) name and I've given up and just tell every caller sorry he's been dead almost twenty years.
Same with me. Every first born son has had the same first name in my family sinde the battles of Hastings and Agincourt. But suddenly every corporation must call me by my 'Legal' name, even though they can't tell me which law that is and why it's been fine to call me by my middle name for fifty years.

I find it really disrespectful that they decide what name to call me. At work for example all my milestone awards come with my great-grandfathers name on it instead of my name.

All the first borns use our middle names because at family events there can be 14 or 15 people with the same first name in a room.
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The day after I sat at a political dinner with the Superintendant of Motor Vehicle, a clerk would not transfer a pickup truck as my Mom signed with her name, and not the 'legal' first name.
Still had his card, so I called him when I got home. Half an hour later Motor Vehicles called to come in as the papers were all done.
He'd faxed a note that if they wanted to fly to Vancouver and argue in the seniors home that Mom had used the wrong name for 86 years, he'd back them. Otherwise fill out the papers!

I just hope when UPS brings my computer they have a different driver. The last one sat out on the street and honked cuz he was scared shitless of our pomeranian. Might have wagged him to death!
Most of the other couriers carry a pocketful of dog treats and all the local dogs rush out to greet them and escort them to the porch.
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InnovaPost was Canada Post’s in house IT provider, handling key infrastructure like email and its shipping platform.

Brilliant. This allows internal transfer for the lowest cost, since any profits are returned.

It was sold to Deloitte in 2024. Obvs they must be suckers.

Canada Post built SCI, a third-party logistics company (3LP) w/ synergistic operations. It was one of 🇨🇦’s largest 3PLs, essential ecommerce infrastructure.

“SCI has been a strong performer for the Canada Post Group of Companies over the years,” Canada Post’s CEO in 2024.

so strong he… sold it?

SCI had 75 warehouses, over 4 million sqft of prime real estate w/advanced automation, benefitting from public resources.

3,000 employees. Handled $1b in inventory at any time. It was sold to Quebec-based Metro Supply Chain, now 🇨🇦’s largest 3PL.

one of Metro Supply’s largest backers is Quebec’s public pension. SCI prints money & it’s impossible to rebuild, so they were happy.

Canada Post management didn’t disclose its assets or revenues—or the final price, just the net. No politicians had questions?

Here’s the kicker: Canada Post Group lost $1.3B last year—5x its losses in 2022, before it was restructured to dispose of assets.

Current CEO was appointed by the LPC in 2019. Guess how much they lost that year, before he had full control? It turned a $69M profit.

That was just two of the dozens of questionable decisions I spotted reading old financials.

Profitable business segments were sold off to amplify losses.

It’s not the workers. It’s not public services.

It’s not an accident. It’s a robbery.
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