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Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:53 pm
by Dr Strangelove
“They’re doubling down on globalization when we’re trying to correct for the problems of globalization,” he added. “So those are two models that don’t fit together very well.”

1. Diverging trade philosophies
Canada: pursuing diversification, more trade agreements, and deeper globalization.

U.S.: prioritizing reshoring, stricter rules of origin, and reducing reliance on global supply chains.
These approaches inherently clash.

2. Rules of origin pressures
The U.S. wants tighter rules of origin to prevent subsidized goods from entering North America via Canada or Mexico.
Greer said Mexico is cooperating, but Canada is only “a little bit” aligned in areas like steel.

3. Canada’s diversification is seen as a problem
Greer pointed to Prime Minister Mark Carney’s push for more global trade agreements as evidence Canada is moving in a direction incompatible with U.S. goals.

4. U.S. threat to revisit trade rules
Greer warned that if Canada continues on its current path, the U.S. may need to re‑examine country‑of‑origin rules to ensure it is not “disadvantaged.”

Washington demanding 'entry fee' from Ottawa before trade talks: sources

How Canada is responding
Prime Minister Mark Carney has publicly rejected the idea that the U.S. can dictate terms:

“It’s not a case of the United States dictates the terms.”

Canada has already made significant concessions, including:

Dropping the digital services tax

Issuing refunds to tech companies

Scaling back retaliatory tariffs

Yet U.S. negotiators have not reciprocated, according to Canadian officials

Carney insists negotiations must be mutual, not one‑sided, and that Canada will take the time needed to reach a balanced outcome.

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:54 pm
by testerone
the problem of globalization
Kind od points out exactly what the problem is. Those Yanks only see themselves, not a World.

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:19 pm
by al_keda
So, the best deal OrangeIdiot ever negotiated in 2020 isn't a good deal now?

Seriously, we can see you standing there. I think Greer is 3 kids in a trench coat pretending to negotiate.

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 8:56 am
by Dr Strangelove

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 8:57 am
by Dr Strangelove

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 10:31 am
by Dr Strangelove


US Demands and Trade Tensions: (0:00 - 2:40)

The U.S. is reportedly demanding an 'entry fee'—essentially significant concessions—from Canada before formal trade talks even begin.
A major point of contention involves the U.S. frustration over provincial bans on American alcohol imports, with only Alberta and Saskatchewan currently allowing them (1:16-1:30).
Howard Lutnik, the U.S. Commerce Secretary, has controversially compared these trade negotiations to purchasing a membership (2:25-2:41).
Canada’s Strategic Response: (3:23 - 5:35)

Prime Minister Mark Carney has appointed Janice Shereé as Canada's chief trade negotiator. She is described as taking a firm stance, demanding reciprocity and highlighting concessions Canada has already made, such as removing the digital sales tax on U.S. tech giants (3:33-4:25).
A 'Team Canada' advisory committee has been formed, which notably includes political figures from across the spectrum, such as Jean Charest, Lisa Raitt, and Erin O'Toole (4:32-5:12).
Political Friction: (5:57 - 8:58)

The video criticizes Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre for his response to the situation, describing his recent commentary as repetitive and negative.
Poilievre has advocated for building leverage to counter American tariffs (7:30-7:45), which the creator characterizes as an oversimplified approach compared to the structured strategy adopted by the government (8:27-9:00).

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 11:28 am
by Dr Strangelove


Diplomatic and Trade Tensions: The video highlights recent aggressive rhetoric from the U.S. Department of Commerce (0:26-0:54) and notes the U.S. administration's demand for "entry fees" during the upcoming CUSMA (Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement) review (4:32-5:00).
Economic Impact on U.S. Small Businesses: The cooling relationship is directly impacting American tourism. For instance, New Hampshire has seen a 30% drop in Canadian tourism, which threatens the livelihoods of thousands of workers and small business owners (2:39-3:04).
Decoupling and Market Shifts: The video suggests that Canada is seeking independence from U.S.-integrated trade policies by forging new agreements elsewhere (5:47-6:07). This includes the potential for Canada to open its markets to Chinese electric vehicles instead of complying with U.S. tariffs (6:22-7:00).
Consequences for the Working Class: The creator warns that these political maneuvers are not just political theater; they are leading to a decoupling that will likely cause the cost of essential goods, groceries, and energy to rise for average Americans (9:48-10:02).
Ultimately, the video concludes that the U.S. administration’s approach is fostering a "new modern dystopia" where citizens must adapt to a crumbling economic landscape while policymakers prioritize short-term political posturing over sustainable economic health

RIP USA was a good run.

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 4:29 pm
by al_keda
Goodwill is o easy to lose, and they operated mainly on goodwill.

Now I'm sure that China will go for Taiwan. The US has shown it's arms supply chain can't keep up to what China has prepared for. Drone Pearl Harbour.

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 10:59 am
by Dr Strangelove


Trade Negotiations (KUSMA/CUSMA):

The panel discusses the current state of Canada-U.S. trade talks (0:30-15:30). They suggest that much of the public posturing is a "phony war" and that real, meaningful negotiations have yet to formally begin.
Chantal Hébert highlights the strategy behind Mark Carney’s Canada-U.S. Council, which aims to create a consensus-based Canadian position and provide the government with political cover by involving diverse voices, including former conservative leaders (6:48-8:56).
Bruce Anderson notes that while political rhetoric is intense, the government continues necessary behind-the-scenes work, such as planning an investor summit (11:25-11:37).
Conservative Party Dynamics:

The panel analyzes Pierre Poilievre's leadership, suggesting he is facing internal challenges (21:34-30:04). Chantal Hébert discusses the need for him to showcase a broader range of his caucus members, while Bruce Anderson reflects on the pitfalls of internal criticism within a political party (28:47-30:04).
Referendums and National Unity:

The discussion shifts to the possibility of referendums in Alberta and Quebec (31:55-46:17). The panel emphasizes that the current political environment is different from past referendums, and that the arguments need to focus on economic realities rather than constitutional grievances or "refighting the last war" (40:55-43:55).
White House Correspondents Dinner:

The panel closes with a debate on whether journalists should attend the White House Correspondents Dinner, especially when faced with potential hostility from figures like Donald Trump (47:01-52:05). Chantal Hébert argues that it is a work event where journalists should observe and report, rather than become part of the act by walking out (50:27-51:32).

Re: Canada, U.S. trade systems ‘don’t fit together very well,’ Greer says

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:10 pm
by Dr Strangelove