Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:11 am
by Dr Strangelove
Strengthening Relations: The ambassador outlines the Canadian government's focus on diversifying trade and enhancing security through a deeper, more profound relationship with the European Union (0:26-1:12).
Strategic Alliances: Discussions are underway regarding an "Alliance for the Future" to boost economic prosperity and collective sovereignty, specifically in sectors like energy, resources, artificial intelligence, and supercomputing (1:53-2:21, 6:26-6:50).
Associate Membership: While the term "associate membership" has been mentioned by both parties, Wilkinson emphasizes that the focus remains on driving concrete, sector-specific results rather than finalizing labels before the October summit (4:10-4:46, 9:32-9:45).
Sovereignty: Wilkinson clarifies that Canada is not seeking to become a formal member of the EU because it would require yielding portions of national sovereignty; instead, the goal is to cooperate closely while maintaining independence (7:03-7:20).
There is a reason why this man was appointed by Carney to lead this. He was the sharpest sword in Carney's cabinet and he gave him this portfolio to build from the ground up because everything will rest on it.
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:51 am
by Dr Strangelove
A few days ago people screeched that:
“Canada couldn’t get offered a great deal as associate membership wasn’t a thing”
Today the EU announced they’d like to explore that offer.
AND, I’ve got the rough motivator terms that both sides are looking at for the deal:
As I said Article 217 TFEU, allows the EU to make any “association agreement” it wants.
In-session discussions of Article 217 have noted that this can be up to “new classes of membership” that “do not compel the regular membership requirements”
So while previous AA agreements were not memberships, one for Canada could be offered.
The EU wants:
1) A stable trade partner with natural resources.
2) To enact the free trade that’s been blocked by some member states who didn’t ratify CETA.
3) To develop new manufacturing suppliers as EU space is tapped out and they don’t want to depend on China.
4) Defence manufacturing providers that are not US based.
5) Arctic stability and surveillance.
6) Accelerated tourist visa waivers for EU tourists, and accelerated review for EU skilled immigration (not open border)
7) European companies having access to Canadian markets and exchange listings as if they were Canadian.
8) Accelerated review of EU food and medical products by Health Canada for approved access to the Canadian market.
9) Canada’s development banks to be able to access and own projects in the EU that it deems inline with its investment mandate.
10) EU pension funds and wealth funds to be able to invest in Canada with preferred tax rules.
Canada would get:
1) Free movement for Canadian’s to live and work in the EU.
2) The right for Canadian companies to sell to EU government procurement as if they were European.
3) The right for Canadian defence providers to provide services to EU governments and militaries including in classified settings.
4) Free trade with Europe.
5) Canadian financial institutions having access to SEPA and other European transfer networks, improving Canadian banking competition.
6) The ability for Canadians and Canadian companies to sell to Europeans or invest in Europe without foreign buyer taxes.
7) Canadian products being eligible for EU tax credit rebates when sold in the EU.
8) The ability for Canadian companies to manufacture in Europe without repatriation tariffs.
All **WITHOUT**:
-Open borders in Canada
-Adopting the Euro
-Being bound by the EU commission
-Adopting Brussels oversight or policy
Now this is the starting point for each of the sides, the negotiations may water down or remove some points, or introduce new asks.
But both sides want very different things, that are *hugely* beneficial to both.
Yet Canada clearly comes out on top of this deal because they have the valuable primary industry that Europe needs and so would get potentially the lightest requirement offer that Europe has ever put forth.
While the EU seems to have acknowledged that because of the difference in scale, they can’t expect Canada to have fully open borders, or markets.
If Carney lands this plane, it would be historic.
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 12:22 pm
by Dr Strangelove
EU Associate Membership: European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen publicly invited Canada to become the EU's first-ever "associate member" (0:15 - 0:55). This proposal, made during her State of the Union address with Prime Minister Mark Carney in attendance, signals a deeper, values-based alliance intended to provide Canada with greater economic autonomy (1:23 - 2:06).
Economic Mobilization: The recent Canada Investment Summit in Toronto successfully mobilized nearly $500 billion toward a $1 trillion five-year investment goal (3:31 - 3:56). This includes major commitments from Canadian banks and pension funds, supported by a new "productivity mega-deduction" that reduces the tax burden on major new builds from 13% to 6.4% (4:13 - 4:43).
Strategic Realignment: Prime Minister Carney is engaging in a high-level diplomatic tour, including a formal address to the European Parliament and an upcoming meeting with Emmanuel Macron (2:17 - 2:53). The government is positioning Canada as a reliable supplier for Europe in defense, critical minerals, and energy, effectively reducing its sole reliance on United States trade relations (5:22 - 5:54).
Bipartisan Consensus: Former Prime Minister Stephen Harper publicly supported the need for Canada to reduce its dependence on American trade demands, emphasizing a unified national approach to sovereignty (5:54 - 6:49).
A standing ovation and open invitation that will be pioneered by Canada and followed by the rest of the free world. We get in on the ground floor at set the terms on our terms, while the US is discarded like used garbage.
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:58 pm
by Dr Strangelove
Canada Associate Membership: The most significant announcement is the proposal to make Canada the first associate member of the EU, aiming to create a common prosperity and economic security space (0:30-1:50).
European Security Architecture: von der Leyen proposed a new emergency security protocol, similar to NATO's Article 4, alongside the creation of a European Security Council to better coordinate defense, including military enablers and air defense (2:48-4:05).
EU Kids Act: A new initiative to restrict social media access for those under 13 and introduce strict parental supervision requirements for children aged 13-15 (4:06-4:55).
Congress of Europe: A plan to gather "brightest minds" to develop a future vision for the continent, with the host drawing parallels to the Congress of Vienna and the 1948 Congress of Europe (4:56-6:41).
Tougher stance on China: Addressing the €1 billion per day trade deficit and heavy reliance on China for critical raw materials and rare earths (6:42-7:55).
In his assessment, the host gives the speech a 7.5/10 rating (8:00-9:40). While he praises the vision, he expresses disappointment that key issues like EU institutional reform, the removal of the veto, and concrete plans for EU enlargement were not prioritized.
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 5:25 pm
by Dr Strangelove
Do it!
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2026 8:44 am
by Dr Strangelove
Mark Carney, "In the heart of Germany, above Weimar, there is a wooded ridge called Ettusberg. And for decades, Goethe walked, thought, and wrote there. An oak on that ridge came to bear his name, a living monument to the highest ideals of European culture"
"As the 20th century turned dark, that same oak became trapped behind the barbed wire of Buchenwald. A silent witness to humanity's deepest moral failure. Goethe understood that ideals must be fought for, that values do not defend themselves."
"Indeed, at the end of Faust, the old man's last vision is of a free people on free ground. Nödvg, Värdjän, Siegfreiheit. Wie das Leben, de taklik si eroban mus"
"Freedom and life must be earned every single day"
"Every day"
"Every day, not once in 1945 or 1956 or 1989. Every day, including this one."
My take: 1945, 1956 and 1989 are not distant history lessons: they mark Europe’s liberation from fascism, Hungary’s uprising against Soviet rule, and the fall of the Iron Curtain. Carney’s point is that freedom is never something Europe simply achieved and banked forever - it is a choice, a responsibility and, when necessary, a struggle renewed by every generation.
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2026 8:46 am
by Dr Strangelove
“I am not proposing a third bloc in order to become a great-power rival — only with better manners.
We do not seek power to dominate others. On the contrary, we are pursuing resilience so no one, no one can control our open markets, impair our sovereignty, threaten our territorial integrity, or undermine our freedoms, our democracies, our rule of law.”
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2026 8:53 am
by Dr Strangelove
Mark Carney on Trump: "We are looking for partnerships that are complementary, that reinforce our sovereignty. And that's what is on offer here. Nobody is going to tell us what language we speak, no one is going to dictate our culture, or with whom we can strike agreements internationally."
Re: European Union invites Canada to become first ever ‘associate member’
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2026 8:54 am
by Dr Strangelove
Mark Carney: "We can help to create the next just, stable, and prosperous world order. A Canada-EU alliance would create a beacon for other democracies, An alliance not defined by what we oppose, but about what we are for. Freedom, solidarity, prosperity, sustainability."