Pierre Poilievre Is Lying To Your Face
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It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
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It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
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Supriya Dwivedi: "[Pierre Poilievre] saying the PM hasn't held negotiations in five months is the kind of framing I would honestly expect from a Trump WH official on Fox News ... I think there's a way to [oppose] without coming across like you're being petulant or that you're trying to run cover for the Trump administration."
Because they are one and the same.
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The cynicism & hyper partisanship on this site can be exhausting.
I see criticism of Conservatives like
@erinotoole
&
@lraitt
for agreeing to serve on the Prime Minister’s Canada-US relations advisory panel.
Some say it represents “patronage.”
To be clear, membership on advisory panels like this are not paid positions. Sometimes they will offer modest per diems for longer meetings requiring travel. But there is no material reward for participating in work like this. If anything it represents an opportunity cost for busy people who give up paid work or billable time in order to participate.
In other words, it’s not patronage.
Cynics, brace yourself: perhaps what motivates people to set aside partisanship and do voluntary work like this is an authentic sense of duty, of public service that puts country ahead of party.
To the partisans who think it’s disloyal to accept a role like this: please remember that severely normal Canadians do not see the world through your hyper partisan lens. They expect Canadians to work together across party lines to help defend the country from external threats, like Donald Trump’s aggression.
(Remember Stephen Harper appointing John Manley to lead the advisory panel on the Afghan military deployment; or appointing Gary Doer Ambassador to the US.)
Finally, to Conservatives: one of the most unattractive feature of the contemporary left is its tendency to politicize absolutely everything. Don’t repeat their error. Conservatism is not a rigid ideological doctrine requiring loyalty tests and the demonization of our political adversaries.
Neither is the 'contemporary left' there Jason but I won't hold that against you as the point still stands. Only zealots deal in absolutes.
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The CUSMA War Room (0:00 - 2:33)
Prime Minister Mark Carney has assembled a high-level, bipartisan committee chaired by Dominic LeBlanc to prepare for upcoming trade negotiations.
The committee includes diverse representation from sectors like banking, energy, mining, and manufacturing, along with Conservative figures such as Erin O'Toole, Lisa Raitt, and Jean Charest.
The goal is to act as a "structured intelligence operation" to map domestic red lines and coordinate a unified national position before facing American negotiators.
Political Dynamics & Opposition (2:33 - 5:00)
The video highlights a sharp contrast between Carney’s approach and Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre’s reaction. Poilievre has publicly attacked the committee, calling it a failure, which the hosts argue undermines Canada's negotiating leverage by highlighting internal division.
Polling data suggests Carney holds a 62% approval rating, while Poilievre faces 60% unfavorability and growing dissent within his own party base.
Negotiating Challenges & Deadlines (6:02 - 8:41)
Supply Management: There is a positive, albeit informal, signal from US Ambassador Pete Hoekstra suggesting that Canada’s supply management system for dairy and poultry may be off the table for negotiations (6:02).
The May 25th Deadline: Mexico has a bilateral round with the US scheduled for late May. If Canada does not coordinate its position quickly, it risks being forced into a framework dictated by deals the US may strike with Mexico first (6:37).
Strategic Conclusion (8:41 - 11:04)
By including opposition figures in the council, Carney is building a "durable" national mandate. The video argues this bipartisan stamp makes it harder for the US to exploit Canadian partisan divisions, transforming the committee into an essential architecture for national survival in trade talks.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre Is Lying To Your Face
Ask PP the same question. What has he ever negotiated? Can't even do it with his own caucus.
CArney?
Well Trumpy boys asked for 5 concessions before negotiation can even start. That's negotiating?
Darney met them with their own style of negotiation. A polite Fuck You.
CArney?
Well Trumpy boys asked for 5 concessions before negotiation can even start. That's negotiating?
Darney met them with their own style of negotiation. A polite Fuck You.