Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
South Korea's Hanwha showcases submarine as Ottawa mulls multibillion-dollar contract
Showboating confirmed.
Showboating confirmed.
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
German submarine bid promises Canada $86B economic boost and tens of thousands of jobs
What Germany is promising Canada — the core numbers
$86 billion boost to Canada’s GDP over the lifetime of the program.
654,000+ job‑years of employment (full‑time equivalents).
Up to 50,000 jobs per year during the first five years after contract award.
Many investments would begin within two years of Ottawa’s decision.
These figures come from economic-impact modelling reviewed by CBC/Radio‑Canada and referenced publicly by German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius at CANSEC 2026.
What Germany is offering beyond the submarines
The TKMS (ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems) proposal includes a broad industrial package designed to appeal to Ottawa’s demand for domestic economic benefits:
Two Canadian maintenance facilities (one on each coast), based on Norway’s existing 212CD support centre.
Canadian production of propulsion systems and submarine batteries.
New manufacturing centres for:
Heavy torpedoes
Anti‑torpedo systems
Potential hypersonic missile testing and possibly production
Partnerships with four Indigenous development organizations.
Investments tied to critical minerals, ports, energy infrastructure, and advanced sensors/AI.
Germany is explicitly linking the offer to Arctic defence, NATO integration, and long‑term strategic cooperation with Canada.
What Germany is promising Canada — the core numbers
$86 billion boost to Canada’s GDP over the lifetime of the program.
654,000+ job‑years of employment (full‑time equivalents).
Up to 50,000 jobs per year during the first five years after contract award.
Many investments would begin within two years of Ottawa’s decision.
These figures come from economic-impact modelling reviewed by CBC/Radio‑Canada and referenced publicly by German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius at CANSEC 2026.
What Germany is offering beyond the submarines
The TKMS (ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems) proposal includes a broad industrial package designed to appeal to Ottawa’s demand for domestic economic benefits:
Two Canadian maintenance facilities (one on each coast), based on Norway’s existing 212CD support centre.
Canadian production of propulsion systems and submarine batteries.
New manufacturing centres for:
Heavy torpedoes
Anti‑torpedo systems
Potential hypersonic missile testing and possibly production
Partnerships with four Indigenous development organizations.
Investments tied to critical minerals, ports, energy infrastructure, and advanced sensors/AI.
Germany is explicitly linking the offer to Arctic defence, NATO integration, and long‑term strategic cooperation with Canada.
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Cynicism is acceptance
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
Germany does have a good reputation when it comes to below sea shipping. 
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Re: Canada narrows choice for new submarines to German, South Korean bidders
Germany pledges 4 submarines by 2036 in high-stakes pitch to Canada
Four submarines delivered by 2036
Germany’s defence minister, Boris Pistorius, told CBC that TKMS can deliver four Type 212CD submarines by 2036, matching South Korea’s earlier promise of delivery by 2035.
To do this, Germany and Norway would give up one submarine each from their own production slots, with the next two boats prioritized for Canada.
This is a major shift—TKMS had previously been vague about timelines.
Massive Economic Package
Germany’s bid includes one of the largest foreign industrial investment packages Canada has ever been offered:
$86 billion GDP boost over the life of the program
654,000+ job‑years of employment
Up to 50,000 jobs per year in the first five years
Front‑loaded investments starting within two years of contract award
Projects spanning shipbuilding, critical minerals, ports, energy, manufacturing, and missile systems
This is designed to counter South Korea’s aggressive industrial pitch.
Four submarines delivered by 2036
Germany’s defence minister, Boris Pistorius, told CBC that TKMS can deliver four Type 212CD submarines by 2036, matching South Korea’s earlier promise of delivery by 2035.
To do this, Germany and Norway would give up one submarine each from their own production slots, with the next two boats prioritized for Canada.
This is a major shift—TKMS had previously been vague about timelines.
Massive Economic Package
Germany’s bid includes one of the largest foreign industrial investment packages Canada has ever been offered:
$86 billion GDP boost over the life of the program
654,000+ job‑years of employment
Up to 50,000 jobs per year in the first five years
Front‑loaded investments starting within two years of contract award
Projects spanning shipbuilding, critical minerals, ports, energy, manufacturing, and missile systems
This is designed to counter South Korea’s aggressive industrial pitch.
It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Cynicism is acceptance
Cynicism is acceptance