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Ukraine war thread

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Multiple Ukrainian attack drones struck Russia's Belgorod State Technological University tonight, per local channels, hitting a building that housed Russian drone development, testing, and operator training.

The development center suffered significant damage.
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Conversion Process: Engineers gutted the cockpits of these hobbyist planes, replacing pilot seats with additional fuel tanks, batteries, and remote flight controls. They also added electro-optical cameras and hard points to carry heavy Soviet-era OFAB-100-120 aerial bombs (2:13 - 2:27, 4:13 - 5:31).
Tactical Advantage: Because these aircraft are slow, small, and look like civilian planes, they create significant ambiguity for Russian air defenses, which are designed to intercept missiles and military-grade drones rather than hobbyist aircraft (6:15 - 6:46, 9:16 - 9:55).
Operational Maturity: A photo released on July 13th showed 10 of these aircraft together. Analysts note that this indicates a well-coordinated unit with established command structures and supply chains, rather than just experimental improvised efforts (0:12 - 0:48, 7:18 - 8:33).
Strategic Impact: The squadron conducted a joint strike near the Perekop Isthmus in Crimea, targeting critical logistics infrastructure. The program's scale remained successfully concealed for months until the photographic reveal (2:41 - 3:36, 8:33 - 9:16).


$40k converted ultralight vs million dollar interceptor. The math solves itself.
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The Normalization of Hybrid Attacks: The report highlights a trend of incidents—including infrastructure sabotage and airspace violations—that gradually erode international red lines (0:30-0:53).
The Limits of Deterrence: The creator, alongside former Lithuanian Foreign Secretary Gabrielius Landsbergis, argues that the muted response from NATO—such as not invoking Article 4—may embolden further Russian aggression by signaling timidity (1:33-3:49).
Historical Context and Future Risk: Comparing the current situation to the events of 1939, the video emphasizes that failing to stand firm against territorial incursions can lead to broader conflict (5:35-6:07).
Call for Action: The report concludes by suggesting that NATO must adopt a more proactive stance, such as protecting the airspace over western Ukraine, to prevent further escalation and show that the alliance is truly prepared to defend its territory (7:26-8:06).
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Ukraine will never join NATO — Zaluzhnyi

According to Ukraine's ambassador to the UK, the Alliance is not ready to admit the Ukrainian military at its current level of development, while NATO itself, in his view, still relies on “World War II doctrines.”

“I know NATO very well. For about 12 years, I personally worked to help us adopt NATO standards, and every year I listened to fairy tales that ‘we’re about to join NATO.’ Unfortunately, we will never join it,” said the former commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

According to Zaluzhnyi, new defense alliances will emerge instead, one of which could become a European military security bloc.


Keep kicking that football Charlie, I'm sure one of these days Lucy will hold the ball. NATO is dead and a new defence pact centered around Ukraine must rise up from the ashes. Poland shows that NATO article 5 is worthless because the US is worthless. Chain is only as strong as the weakest link.
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Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ukraine starts taking down satellites next because right now they’re dropping Russia’s high‑altitude drones like flies.

A small Ukrainian defense team in Chernihiv just set a new altitude recordA ZALA Z‑20 spy drone, normally cruising safely in the upper atmosphere, was intercepted at 6,858 meters. Nearly seven kilometers up. Russia sends them that high to avoid ground weapons — Ukraine hits them anyway.
This isn’t just a kill. It’s a technological message: cheap Ukrainian systems can now reach targets Russia thought were “untouchable.”
And it keeps going:
4.3 km over Kursk Ukraine shot down a ForpostR using a Chaklun‑KM drone. Russia is losing its “eyes in the sky” faster than it can replace them.

The ZALA Z‑20 is no toy: 18 kg, six hours endurance, 100+ km range. Built to be a persistent surveillance platform. Now it’s a persistent wreck.
In short: Ukraine is taking down everything that flies. Altitude no longer matters.
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August 3: Russian marketplace Ozon no longer considers Crimea part of the Russian Federation.😁

The woman in the video shared a screenshot of her correspondence with Ozon, in which the company’s support bot states that it does not deliver goods to Sevastopol and lists it among locations outside Russia:

“Why can't I order goods to Sevastopol?

Ozon bot:

Ozon does not deliver goods to Sevastopol. Delivery outside Russia is available only to the following countries: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Uzbekistan.

When placing an order, the system will automatically check whether delivery is available to your region. If an item cannot be delivered to your country, this will be indicated on the product page and during checkout.”
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It can be delivered, but only in the form of smoke, and you have to reassemble it.
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